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Rose Corrick GPCC, ACC
…artist, entrepreneur, seeker, coach…
Rose Corrick GPCC, ACC brings a unique tapestry of talents to her work as a certified life coach with Aging Boldly.
Rose works with women who are in transition, inspiring them to embrace their greatness and to age boldly as they design the next chapter of their lives. Her work as a certified Gestalt-trained life coach is the culmination of wisdom gained as an artist, creative entrepreneur and spiritual seeker over the past 40 years.
Rose’s previous creative venture, Art of Cloth, clothed women in works of art which expressed a woman’s essence and beauty. As a life coach, Rose continues her work with women in inspiring them to live with boldness, passion and creativity.
Rose works with women as a 1:1 coach and offers transformative programs to support women’s journey to live and age boldly with passion, purpose and presence.
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Joni
Welcome to the show. I’m so glad to have you joining us today and I am delighted and honored to welcome back my friend and soul sister, Rose Corrick. Welcome Rose.
Rose
Thank you, Joni. I am smiling as I am sitting here in my studio and smiling at you because I just appreciate you and your energy and the power of our being together.
Joni
Yes, yes, yes, yes. I have a big smile in my heart as well. So let me tell our lovely listeners about you because they’re in for a special treat today. So Rose is an artist. She’s an entrepreneur, she’s a seeker and a coach, and she has important letters after her name. G P CC and ACC, which she’s going to tell us what those means. I know that they are about certified coaching, but I’m, I’m kidding a little bit, but Rose is very accomplished.
And she brings a unique tapestry of talents to our work as a certified life coach with Aging Boldly. Isn’t that something we could all use some wisdom about. Rose works with women who are in transition and she is inspiring them to embrace their greatness and to age boldly, as they design the next chapter of their lives. She works as a certified gestalt trained life coach. And it’s the culmination of wisdom gained as an artist, a creative entrepreneur and a spiritual seeker for over the past 40 years. Her previous creative venture, the Art of Cloth clothed women in works of art, which expressed a woman’s essence and beauty. And as a life coach, Rose continues her work with women in inspiring them to live with boldness, passion and creativity. She does one on one coaching work and she offers transformational programs to support women’s journey, to live in age boldly, with passion, purpose, and presence. Woo Rose. You’ve got it going on.
Rose
As I listened to you, you know, share sort of the, sort of the sum total of my professional life. I have to say I’m sitting back with a little bit of, I’m going to say, Awe. You know, when we look, all of us, we get to a certain age. I’m not sure what that, what age that is for everyone. But we are at, we have a vantage point and we get to look back and see the amazing creations that we’ve had in our lives. Most of us have had numerous careers. Many of us have. All of us have had different identities. And when we step back and really look at our lives, it’s really rich, I guess that’s where I’m at in my life to really be enjoying and appreciating the richness of all of it. And that’s what I try to help other other women with as well.
Joni
Mmm, and I, guess I’m curious how you found yourself offering this after having these various incarnations. Is it the synthesis? Or what, what prompted this incarnation of Rose?
Rose
Well, actually I’ve asked myself that numerous times since I’m a introspective type of person and what I have seen as I’ve looked back over my life, this creative thread has always been really obvious. I remember as a little girl weaving potholders, and I remember the sensation that I had of working with my hands and which quieted my mind, quieted the chatter in my mind. And I could just feel this, I don’t know, creative energy, I guess, and the joy and pleasure of creation. And I think it was also a good distraction from what was going on in my mind. So creativity has always been there for me and over the years, what, as it became obvious that creativity was sort of my path of sorts. I developed two different creative businesses, creative enterprises. One is a commercial interior designer. And the second one was with Art of Cloth as you described in the introduction.
And on the face of it, there were these, this obvious creative path that I followed and it’s like the bread crumbs, you know, I always wanted to bring beautiful textiles to the world. And so commercial interior design was sort of my first, what was it like a 20 year journey. And the second one was Art of Cloth was following a dream of mine, which was from childhood, was to bring beautiful designs and textiles to the world. And so that I listened to those breadcrumbs. I followed them. I listened to that dream. I followed, I carried that out and I’m really grateful. And I don’t know, what is it, sort of odd that I did that. And I’m appreciative that I really listened to that calling, but underneath all of that. So this is the part that led to coaching underneath that whole creative journey, which was what the world saw I was seeking and trying to understand my life and, a fair amount of, yeah, what a great deal of pain that I carried from childhood.
Actually, I grew up a stutterer. I come from a family of stutterers and there was trauma in my background. And so as I was presenting this successful creative package to the world, if you will, silently quietly behind the scenes, I was pursuing who I was trying to understand and unravel the, sort of the mystery. That was me. That was my physical sensitivities, my emotional pain, my psychic pain. I was trying to understand it. And so I literally went on a, it probably started in my mid twenties and I, you know, so for decades I was seeking, I did therapy, lots of spiritual growth and personal development, which continues to this day. And so that was the sort of the, I’m going to say the underground of my visual success I was seeking and trying to understand. And that was a, Oh, what was it? It was a incredibly beautiful, challenging journey. We’re trying to make sense of life. And my metaphor, you know, I have a visual of it. It’s almost like, you know, this was going on underground. And then when I closed my last business a few years ago, it just became obvious that I was to go deeper, that I had a bigger purpose in life. And clothing women in beautiful clothes was just an amazing experience. And I learned so much from it. And I’m so gifted with the relationships, the process, the people, the journey of bringing beautiful clothes to the world and helping women really know their own beauty. And I knew there was something bigger for me to do, which was to sort of, to help women understand and access their beauty inside and to help form their issue is as I had done in my own life.
So that was the underground journey that became above ground and has become very visible.
Joni
Mmm, yeah, it makes me think of just the seed that sprouts and turns into this beautiful plant or tree that bears fruit per se. And now you’re now is the time that you’re bearing the fruit that others can take in and nourish themselves and receive in a deeper way.
Rose
Yeah. I, that’s a lovely metaphor. The other one that I have is around silos and I I’ve been working with this slightly that really seeing that I kept, and I think I know I’m not alone in this, but that with, especially when we come from a challenging background, we can silo parts of ourselves and develop parts of ourselves and not develop other parts of ourselves, or we move on from one and then it’s like the other didn’t even exist.
For example, I grew up playing piano and I was actually quite accomplished. I could have gone to, had a scholarship to study music and I chose to not do that. And I stopped playing music altogether. And I’m only just now beginning to access music again, after many decades. And, you know, for some reason, I compartmentalize these parts of myself. So with this time of our lives, I believe we have. And that somewhere, maybe over 50, it depends. It’s different for every woman. I think when they start to feel this sort of longing to integrate and renew and find out what’s next. But I think for me, I’ve been, I’m really actively engaging to break down those walls of the silos and, and access all of my gifts and pull out what really makes sense and almost curate who I am today, because I can. It’s a really, you don’t leave behind parts of yourself.
You bring all of yourself with you and you, we get to decide who we want to be and how we want to be. So we’re at a choice point that I think is a really powerful place to be in life. Yeah.
Joni
Yes. And I remember hearing you speak about life as a work of art, and this is part of what I’m hearing coming through right now. Can you yes. More about that?
Rose
Yeah. I’m actually just, I’m beginning, I’ve got a program that I’m beginning to create about this idea of our lives as a work of art. It’s this idea that we again have all these phases of our lives, these identities, these things we did. I was an interior designer and I was an artist and I’m a mother. I was a wife, several wives. So we have all these pieces, parts, I mean there identities. And when I start to step back and look at each, identity, each part of my life, I’ve been asking myself, what are the gifts and the lessons that I learned from these parts of my life, instead of focusing on the story I’m looking at, what did I learn? How did my years as an interior designer, for example, impact me today, or how did it impact my work at Art of Cloth? And my love of color texture were so present in my work at Art of cloth. And my appreciation of people’s textures, colors, patterns, differences are so present for me as a coach.
You know, I think everything informs everything else. And if we can begin to see our lives from a place of appreciation, as opposed to ending a phase and starting another one. And just really appreciating all the, sort of the art of this life that we’ve created, it’s a lot more fun. And it’s just really a rich idea.
Joni
And it takes some of the, I’m gonna say pressure off in, from my perspective too, to think this is, this is a work of art. It’s not some linear product, you know, my, my life is not sums and balances. It’s a work of art. It, it just, for me, it makes it a looser more alive, more vital, more, it just gives freedom, keeps coming to me the word freedom.
Rose
I like that. And also think of, I don’t know if you know the work of the music of Bela Bartok, but you know, when I was playing piano back in high school, I loved Bela Bartok and Prokofiev and these really wild sounding composers.
And I think it matched that cacophony inside me. That’s what I say now. But it’s, so that was art. And so it may sound dissonant and discordant and wildly crazy, but it’s still art. That music of that style is still art. So let’s say parts of our lives that don’t seem so pretty or where we have a lot of pain, or that didn’t seem very much like art. So imagine it as a really wild piece of art that’s to be appreciated. It’s really an interesting perspective. I’ve really been enjoying it.
Joni
Yes. And I think I have heard somewhere along the way that really what distinguishes a master artist from an amateur is not that they never make mistakes as in, there’s never, you know, messes in their work, but they know how to take that and work with it and weave it into the final outcome in a way that is masterful and beautiful.
Rose
Yeah, that’s very true. When I was dying at Art a Cloth there were never any mistakes. I mean, we would always doctor, paint over, a dye over. Everything was not just salvageable, but everything became beautiful in a different way. Yeah.
Joni
Yes. And I just do want to give a shout out to the level of success that Art of Cloth had. I know I heard from a mutual friend of ours that Frankie from Grace and Frankie on Netflix has worn some of your clothes. And so you’re, you that’s that aspect of your work has really gone up out into the world in a big way.
Rose
It was so fun. We had a Frankie wore 8 to my knowledge, maybe more actually we’ve since found more, well, at least 8 pieces of Art of Cloth. And there was one episode I wish I knew the season. It was in one of the earlier episodes where her back went out and she’s lying on her back throughout the whole episode. And she’s wearing this Art of Cloth tunic, which I own in my closet upstairs. It was a really fun experience to know there were women around the world that appreciated what we were doing at Art of Cloth and making these beautiful individual hand-dye pieces of art that expressed a woman’s beauty.
Joni: And you had to stop doing that?
Rose
Yes, there, you know, it’s interesting looking at this now and I think, wow, that was really perfect timing soul. So thank you. COVID-19 where would Art of Cloth be? It became clear that the apparel industry was changing. And while I was selling, had a really avid following of women online, we were selling directly to customers. We changed from wholesaling to direct selling. So a lot of things were right, but the climate became so challenging in the industry. We were not able to, I was not able to sustain the profit enough of a profitable structure to continue. And so letting go closing that in the most beautiful way possible without ever using the word liquidation and just having oceans of appreciation for the company. I closed it with gratitude. And it was time. So it was clear that was the thing for me to do.
Joni
Yes. And the wisdom of, because I think so many times in our life, particularly when there’s something that is beautiful or having great success, that there are those natural rhythms of life and the blossoming and then the decay and the dying off. And so many of us try and ride the wave into eternity and don’t see, don’t see the signs, don’t see them. It’s like, don’t know how to pivot. Don’t know how to shift?
Rose
Yes, that’s so true. And I love your references to nature really. Because I spend a lot of time in nature these days, and I witness this natural cycle of life and how nature knows about, about birthing and dying. And there’s this gentleness to it all and surrender. Well gentleness, as I say that, but seeing the woods after a storm and these trees, I take photos of all these fallen trees, and I’m amazed that it was some sort of a violent end to these trees, but it’s part of the cycle of life as well. All these things, which we rail against and think it shouldn’t be. Like what we’re going through now with the virus, it’s a natural order of life and including businesses, our bodies, relationships, it’s really fascinating if we surrender to the lessons of mother nature, she’s really a wise teacher.
Joni
Absolutely. And I know you have a beautiful free gift, which ties in some of those lessons from mother nature. Can you tell us about that?
Rose
I do. So I love the way my mind works. You know, I work with nature and creativity and aging, and how do I pull all this together? And, you know, it all makes sense to me. So when I go to, I’ve got my offer is called, Freedom from FOGO, which is fear of getting older Freedom from FOGO: 7 Lessons from Mother Nature. I have a beautiful Metro park near my home, and I take photos of nature and really look for the lessons that I see in nature. So as I mentioned these big logs and trees that are falling over ravines. And I, when I started to look, I was actually amazed at the recycling going on in nature. I mean, there’s just fallen trees everywhere. And yet it seems so natural and okay. And I thought, you know, that’s really the natural order of life. So I took a photo of that.
So I have these lessons that I have accumulated with a photographic story with a meditation and some journaling that bring all these concepts together and help us so that as we age, we bring these very simple, natural lessons back into our own being. As I’ve embraced this idea of aging boldly and there’s a little bit of a story about that. I have been amazed at, as I’ve opened my eyes and witnessed what our culture says about aging, the stigma of it, the cultural biases, the at the ages, and that exists really it’s quite inherent in our culture.
Joni: And it seems especially for women.
Rose
Yes. Especially for women, youth is adored as well. And the beauty of youth is elevated to an adoration, a position of adoration. And just the little I’ve… I mean, when you think of the words, anti-aging, it’s almost a… There are anti-aging campaigns.
Joni Oh Yes. Creams!
Rose
Yes. And because it’s all about anti aging and when you just even think about the words, it’s an assault, it’s a, it’s an insult, it’s a desecration and it’s just downright wrong. And we, as women are sort of guilty of it as much as men.
Joni
Well, yeah. We’ve all been drinking the same Kool Aid that is telling us.
Rose
Yes. So when I say the word aging women react differently, some are like, Oh, I’m so glad you’re doing this. And others say, well, I don’t need to talk about aging yet. And they might be in their fifties. Whoever is even listening to this is aging as we listen. I mean, we’re, we’re aging every moment. And what if we just sorta like stripped off all this? I don’t know, these layers of judgment and expectation and messages, negative messages around aging and tried a different conversation, which is what, you know, nature has a much better conversation.
Joni
Yes. And of course I am so impassioned about, we’ll say deconstructing the current paradigm, the patriarchal paradigm, which I believe is the root cause for anti-aging and for the glorification of youth, which most people at that stage of life are not in their full potency or power. It’s not until we reach more maturity that we have our capacity to really stand in and embody our fullness and our power.
And frankly, that’s my conspiracy is that that’s a part of the root of this. It’s like, well, we’re not certainly not going to support women getting to that point. So let’s just cut them down in whatever way we can. And not that it’s men per se doing that. It really is this destructive paradigm, this kind of group viral thinking that we’ve all gotten caught up in.
Rose
Well said. And I love how you address this in your book The Radiance Equation. And I guess I told you, I read it now three times because you’re speaking to me and to so many women, I look at some of the things that really resonated with me that you spoke to about, the self doubt and self judgment that we as women carry and are always looking to others for confirmation that we’re okay. And that we’re, that we’re good enough. And this is such a common theme that I hear with my clients. And I have certainly been on this journey my entire life myself. And it’s not until we can step back and witness the poison of the negative thoughts it’s there literally lies and poison.
Joni: Yes.
Rose
And so every time we doubt ourselves, disparage ourselves, judge ourselves, look in the mirror and hate what we see we’re supporting this system that you just described so well.
Joni: Yes. And returning back to mother nature and that beauty, and in a way, the thing
I value so much about you and your work is that you are holding a positive reflection for women around this process of aging and mirroring for them the beauty and the wisdom and the presence that’s possible. And we have that mirrored as you so wisely – connected to – we have that mirrored in mother nature as well.
Rose
Well, you know, I came to this a lot. If you know, it was the gift of my mother. My mother who passed two years ago, she lived to 94. And the beautiful age of 94. And she was such a model of living and aging boldly. And as she aged, she became more alive and more youthful with every passing year.
Joni: Wow.
Rose
And her light just poured out from her, from her smile, her eyes, she, her interest in others, her deep connection, when she spoke to you, it was a one on one connection when she was fully present. And she was an artist. So she was fully practicing artist up until really 93.
Joni: Wow.
Rose
And so she modeled it for me. I was able to witness her, her friends were of all ages. Most of them were younger than me. And they adored her. She mentored them. She was a buddy of them, with them. And so the possibilities for shedding, these stereotypes, the stigma that I hear and feel from other women and within myself, when we are able to shed these lies and the stereotypical way of being as we age, we can embrace a whole, just an incredibly new, I’m going to say identity, chapter, way of being. And that’s where I bring creak creativity to this conversation, because it’s essential that we begin a process of renewal, which is all about creativity.
Joni
Yes. Yes, I am so glad you shared that story about your mother and what a gift to have that kind of a role model. And I, I see you carrying on that legacy through, through your work. Wow. And it reminds me of a book I found so many years ago called, You’re Not Old Until You’re 90, but it’s Best to be Prepared Anyway, by Rebecca Latimer. Her story is similar, in some ways to your mom’s. She started at 65. She started to write and learn to meditate after a whole other lifetime. And, and then she created a number of books and was narrating her book at 92.
Rose
That is what’s possible. And with it comes an energy. I say that creativity is the greatest antidote to aging that there is. Because I could call it creativity. I also call it Chi, Life Force.
Joni: Yes.
Rose
I call it Eros. It’s actually part that creativity and sexuality chakra, the sacral chakra. And so that eros, life force, it’s this in creativity, it’s this juiciness in life that once we get a taste of it and really carry it forth in our life, then others see it, it’s contagious. And, you know it’s the way to go.
Joni: Yes, it’s the elixir of life.
Rose
It’s true. Yeah. And so it’s like the challenges, how do you name all this stuff about aging? Cause women don’t even want to talk about it. There’s a denial of it. and like sort of name it all so that you can throw it out and begin to replace it with a new conversation. What are our unlived dreams? What are we still longing to do or be, you know, how there’s, I just, when I can access that place of longing and desire in myself I know that I’m ready for another creative venture. So that’s what we want to look for.
Joni
Hmm. Yes. And I know you have a community, a Facebook community where I’m guessing you’re exploring some of these threads.
Rose
I do, it’s called Aging Boldly. It’s on Facebook and you can search for it on Facebook. It’s easy to find. And we have a vital, vibrant group of women from somewhere in the 40’s on. And we are, I’ve just begun to really start to bring in creativity to the conversation there.
Women are showing photos of work that they’re doing. And it’s creativity in all ways. So it’s not just painting. It’s drumming and dancing or it’s gardening. It’s doing a beautiful spreadsheet. I don’t know. There’s creativity in literally everything. And so it’s a very dynamic group and I’m excited about building it and growing it.
Rose
Yay. So dear listener, if you would like to be a part of that community or just kind of tune in to this new way of thinking that Rose’s bringing forward, I strongly encourage you to check out her Facebook group Aging Boldly. And also, I just want to affirm that the link to your free gift, Freedom from FOGO: 7 Lessons from Mother Nature is in the show notes. So dear listener, that is a free gift for you, if you would like to access that, and you can learn all about Rose’s work at her website, which is Rosecorrick.com
So Rose, we have just a little bit of time before we need to wrap up. And I was going to ask you to, to just check in and see what other bits of wisdom need to be said today, to bring this all to a close.
Rose
Well, I had this, I thought about, and you wrote about it in your book about this idea of initiation. And I just think it’s important to name that there is very often this time, not always, that we go through in our lives where things don’t feel right. This picture of aging I just described, it sounds like a happy fairyland. But you know what I came to this, I earned it. It’s a place that I had to go through, but I had to go through to get here.
And so for me, there was this place of loss. I’ll call it soul loss, or I’ve termed it existential depression where I just couldn’t figure out why life didn’t make sense anymore. I had had my dream company and I had fulfilled that. And I thought, why does it seem like everything has been taken away from me? The company was closed. I had to let many losses, my mother, my dog, finances, all kinds of things that were losses. And then starting anew in my late sixties, are you kidding? This is what I’m supposed to be doing? And so I think many of us end up in places and we just think, I don’t get this why me, I’ve done all this work. And the truth is, I’m in a new place where I’ve surrendered.
I’m allowing, I’m relaxing. I’m taking my grip, my fingers. I’m prying them off the wheel of a car. It’s like, I’m letting go of my need to be in charge. And I’m allowing, you know, I’m just, I’m allowing what does, you know, Divine Beloved or Mother Earth, or, you know, All that Is, have in store for me? I’m not in charge. And so letting go and recognize it’s, I’ve been so much happier since I’ve been on this track. And so just want to say for those who are stuck in a deep, dark place of transition to who knows what, and at this age, I think it’s normal. It’s okay. And just everything is going to be all right.
Joni
Yeah. Well, it hearkens back to, so you and I had a conversation not long ago for the Trust Talk Series and really the theme that came through was the trust the process.
And that’s what I’m hearing in what you’re saying that, and believe me, I completely, we get it we’re in that in between place or as things are dying off and the new is not yet obvious. It can be a very funky place to hang out and get comfortable, but you spoke to that very powerfully. And, and I appreciate that. And that whole, it does speak to that belief, which I do believe, and I believe based on what you’ve shared, you do as well, that that life is working on our behalf, that there are forces that have a greater vision for us than our limited mind or ego. And it’s safe to trust that.
Rose
Well, I love the idea of pronoia and you’ve probably heard of that. There’s a book called Pronoia, the opposite of paranoia.
Joni: No, no,
Rose
I love it. It’s the belief that the universe conspires for our good.
Joni: Oh, yes.
Rose
It’s really taking trust and just wrapping it up in this wonderful concept of pronoia, there’s a conspiracy the universe is working for us in ways that we don’t always understand.
And so trusting the journey, trusting the process. So that’s what led me to you. So, you know,
Joni
Yes, yes. So what a beautiful note to end on. Yes. I love that. And I’m going to look into that. I actually have not heard of that book or, or that term, so thank you for sharing it. Yes. You’re welcome. So many gems and I know dear listeners that you have gotten some gems out of this conversation because I certainly have. And so I want to thank you for being here with us as I want to thank you, Rose for taking the time to be with us as well.
Rose
Thank you, Joni. It’s always a pleasure.
Joni
Yes. I agree. It’s always a delight when we get together for sure. And listeners reminder, you can learn about all things Rose at rosecorrick.com. And I want to remind you as always the wonderful Hafiz quote to trust what your heart knows.